And of the sweet thoughts for Amanda Knox
Saturday Spyros was heard, the Greek friend of Amanda Knox. He was really a good friend, Amanda was opening her heart with him. She was going all the time to his Internet Cafe to use internet and to chat with DJ, her boyfriend, or ex boyfriend, in Seattle. Amanda told Spyros that she met Raffaele and about how she felt in fault with DJ, who explains today When she moved to Italy we broke up, we were free.
Madison Paxton, one of Amanda's closest friends in Seattle, described the sweet hearted, good student and conscientious girl she knew, also hard worker and prolific writer, who would just occasionally taste alcohol or try joints.
But Saturday was the second day of the attack to Rudi Guede brought by Sollecito's lawyer Maori who aims to prove that the Perugian boy is the lonely killer of Meredith. It wasn't really needed since the truth is emerging anyway, but, everyone has his own style.
Christian, the guy who said he surprised a guy looking like Rudi in his bedroom was not heard at the pre-trial and was not found for the trial, where Friday or Saturday he should have taken the stand. It seems that he's abroad. So what remains of him is a page and a half of spontaneous declarations to the police.
Christian told the story of a black drunk man who, at 6 am of a hot September morning he caught stealing in his house. The man tried to escape threatening him with a chair and a knife. A movement very similar to the one Christian could read in the newspapers, of the murderer running away from Meredith's room and threatening Rudi with a chair and a knife. Too similar. Also, no feedback arrived for his story. None of the 3 credit cards the thief stole at his place, for instance, were found in Rudi's possession or were used in some place where Rudi was. Besides that, Christian was not sure the thief was Rudi. For these reasons judge Micheli dismissed him as a witness against Guede, and it was an obvious decision.
Often people who are certain to have recognized someone are mistaken, as it happened in a recent case in Rome. If they are not even certain then, and there's zero feedback, better not even considering their testimony. Christian wasn't sure one year and a half ago, it couldn't be more certain now.
If we want to be fair we have to cancel, together with Micheli, Christian's story from our mind. It never happened.
The woman director of the Milan kindergarten was heard. She said she arrived in the morning at the school together with a worker and she saw Rudi in her office. She asked him for explanations in a harsh way, even screaming. But Rudi didn't attack the woman and the worker, didn't run away. He was quiet, serene and available to chat. He justified himself telling her that he had payed 50 € to a guy who showed him that place, where he could sleep. The woman called the police and when the officers arrived they found in Rudi's bag a big knife he had taken from the kitchen of the kindergarten. Also a few coins that were in a closet were missing. In Rudi's bag, as we know, they found as well computer and cellphone stolen from the lawyers office. He tried to justify himself telling to have bought the devices at the Milan train station. Maybe he still didn't have realized the cellphone wasn't working but he was quick in setting his picture with Giorgio Armani as a screen-saver of the laptop. The officers sued him for entering the kindergarten, theft, receiving stolen goods, and detention and transportation of weapon.
Certainly this is a very heavy episode for Rudi. We recognize his creative lies but we don't really see a violent person. He didn't attack the woman, the worker and another person who arrived in the meantime. He didn't try to run away and he waited for the arrival of the police. He wasn't carrying a weapon if is true that he had just stolen one.
When back in Perugia, he will show up in shorts, singlet and with a ball in his hands at the lawyers office to explain that he wasn't the author of the theft (at least, for what those lawyers have told us. Strange lawyers, actually, terrified of journalists...).
Can this coins thief, can this naif boy with a ball in his hand turn, in a few days, into the ruthless butcher of Meredith?
Hard to believe, but he was there. He was in Meredith's room and his story of the murderer arriving while he was in toilet doesn't stand.
On the other hand clues of a murder committed by more than one person still stand.
As we know a witness heard two people running after a scream. Another witness met, at 22:30, a black person, who wasn't Rudi, having the typical way of walking of someone who absolutely didn't have to be seen in his face and didn't have his voice to be heard.
Introna's reconstruction, then, as we have seen, doesn't really work and didn't prove why Meredith didn't have defense wounds.
Analyzing the B & A at the lawyers' office, then, in which Rudi is almost certainly involved, we have noticed the presence of a quasi professional thief able to disable the antitheft. The burglar located the antitheft and disabled the automatic phone calls it does, something like that. A circumstance that makes one think that the basketball player may have gone to steal there together with a more experienced thief. And the mini gang may have done the same at Meredith's place.
Every trial is a lottery, you never know how the judge will decide and Knox and Sollecito's defenses don't exclude that Presidente Massei will convict the lovebirds.
It's funny to see judge and jury discovering this case day by day.
At our own private trial, instead, the case of Amanda Knox and Raffaele Sollecito is solved since long time.
Personally I've heard the prosecution theory in 2007 and tried to believe it. Then I've been looking for something placing Amanda and Raffaele out of his place on the night of the crime, and what did I find? Only a nuts, a buffoon, a couple of jackals and the evanescence of a bunch of doubtful genes.
Little by little everyone is figuring out, everyone will try to jump on the cart of the truth. It will be funny to look at how the prosecution's footlickers will try to change foot to lick. Or how all the guilt side supporters will maybe become just neutral, for then trying to sell themselves as innocent side.
Now everyone is good at maintaining the defendants' innocence, but all of these people have missed forever the pleasure of having helped the discovery of the truth in difficult times, running --with arguments, not with feelings-- against the scientific results and against the conviction of the whole police, two prosecutors, the Gip, the Court of Freedom, the General Attorney, the Supreme Court, the Gup. An unbelievable amount of super qualified people (at least, on the paper), supported by media and public opinion, who didn't have any doubt about the guilt of the two lovebirds.
But the case of Meredith is not the case of Knox and Sollecito, and it isn't solved for anyone.
It looks like Rudi has been grabbing the occasion of Amanda and Raffaele's position for trying to blame them and save himself.
If not at this trial, though, if not at the appeal trial, one day the lovebirds will be acquitted and Rudi will lose his excuse.
Now the ball is really in his hands. And I'm not talking basketball this time. He has the chance to tell us if there was someone else at Meredith's place and who he was. If not --defense wounds or not, two people running or not-- the case of Meredith Kercher will be solved, with his only guilt.


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Frank another great post. Do you really see a change in the Judge and Jury as the defense present their case? Explain further please.
The jurors never speak so you can't really catch their thoughts. But the 2 judges do and, as I explained in the previous article, it seems that they are still there, on the prosecution's position.
But the trial is going unbelievably well for Amanda and Raffaele. I never expected it could go so well for them.
And among the people attending the trial I already saw at least 2 changing their mind and many of the guilty side becoming kind of sad. It's not that much but usually people don't change their mind...
Frank, so glad you showed up, man. Keep it up. We wait for your reports.
Frank, thanks for your response. Do you think if the prosecutor is convicted of misconduct the judge and jury will have an easier time opening their minds to the defense?
Hey judge and jury don't have to open their minds to the defenses. They'll speak at the end, with their sentence.
And the trouble of the prosecutor has nothing to do with this trial.
Frank,
You are right, it is very hard to change peoples opinions when they are predisposed one way or another.
Here are a couple of interesting questions:
Why was Rudy in Milan?
Why would he buy a computer & cell at a train station when short on rent money?
How did he get into the laptop without a PASSWORD?
Why would police tell Rudy where the law office was? That is highly highly highly highly classified information.
Was he picking up a package in Milan?
It seems incredulous that no one knows why he is in Milan.
In Milan went to see Giorgio....
He didn't go to see his relatives?
Hi Frank,
I was under the impression that he met Mr. Armani at a bar by random chance. Was it more than a chance encounter?
he might not have needed a password, not everybody uses one
rudy knew where law office was because he was the one who stole that shit
He was a drifter, he could go anytime anywhere to look for a job or with other targets. Or with no target.
He had already been working near Milan where his ant lives.
Having their cellphone and pc he found the name of the lawyers there. And the pc didn't have a password.
He SAID that he bought them in Milan.
didn't he go there for the discos? thought he had friends there he liked to party with
Armani said that they met by chance and he asked him to pose.
Frank, when did he pose with Armani? That same week or before?
Frank, now that you're here could you please explain why you initially thought Raf and Amanda were guilty and what brought you to change your mind. Was there any specific thing? BTW, I think it would make a good blog post.
Great article as usual Frank. However, I think everyone is entitled to their own opinion about the case. That includes the neutral..like me :) In fact, I think most people are neutral, or go back and forth between different opinions. That is normal. I see a lot of hate being posted here towards people with different opinions. Why? I don't see the need for that.
Frank,
I find it very hard to believe that a law office would not password protect their computers. That puts all their clients at risk and the entire office network would be more vulnerable to hacks, and viruses. Perhaps it is an old computer that they had removed all data from and had in storage. I think most Norton, McCaffe, and other virus programs require you to have a password for the simple reason that they don't want someone remotely rebooting your computer are adding hiden programs.
Frank, did Madison say anything new? Did she talk to reporters?
"Now everyone is good at maintaining the defendants' innocence, but all of these people have missed forever the pleasure of having helped the discovery of the truth in difficult times, running --with arguments, not with feelings-- against the scientific results and against the conviction of the whole police, two prosecutors, the Gip, the Court of Freedom, the General Attorney, the Supreme Court, the Gup. An unbelievable amount of super qualified people (at least, on the paper), supported by media and public opinion, who didn't have any doubt about the guilt of the two lovebirds."
Wonderful post Frank, from one loyal long term poster who is now revelling in the pleasure of having fought for the truth in the difficult times.
Thank you Frank for helping to bring the truth to the light and to a much wider audience.
There are none so blind as those who will not see and I think I feel a Winstone Churchill quote coming on...
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"The truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it and ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is."
I think most Norton, McCaffe, and other virus programs require you to have a password for the simple reason that they don't want someone remotely rebooting your computer are adding hiden programs.
June 28, 2009 7:22 PM
This is a crock of shit.
Frank,
I just read this in a portuguese magazine about the testimony about Guede and was wondering if you could confirm:
"On the night Meredith was found dead, witnesses claim to have seen a disco Guede. When the DJ asked for a minute of silence for the murdered girl, he continued to dance, according to testimony."
If anyone wants a snapshot of what the guilty blogs happily accept in their comment section:
"The only American girls I have ever met in Italy are egotistical, myopic, self serving sluts. You are all free to go home and stay there."
Great sophisticated people huh?
"At our own private trial, instead, the case of Amanda Knox and Raffaele Sollecito is solved since long time."
:D
Tell them, because they do not seem to know what happened.
How can they, when they weren't there.
Ask Rudy!
When the DJ that night declared a moment of silence for Meredith, witnesses say Rudy kept dancing. The next day he fled to Germany, where zealous transit police soon detained him.
http://www.trutv.com/library/crime/notorious_murders/young/amanda_knox/5.html
frank wrote about
Giulia Devis, who saw Rudy keeping on dancing during the minute of silence for Meredith
thank you
"It looks like Rudi has been grabbing the occasion of Amanda and Raffaele's position for trying to blame them and save himself."
It's bullshit, Frank.
Rudy was nowhere to be seen when Amanda and Raffaele had already implicated themselves deeply.
And Rudy will also get his 30 years which he deserves as a minumum.
"what brought you to change your mind. Was there any specific thing? "
Yes, the power of logic and philosophy. :DDD
I'm not surprised at what tyou write
It is clear by now, that you cannot do any better.
frank what would we do without you? thanks for hanging out with us all this time
Rudy was nowhere to be seen when Amanda and Raffaele had already implicated themselves deeply.
June 28, 2009 9:23 PM
And this will be the chant of the haters when the pair are freed as justification for their incarceration. That they deserved to be charged for their stupidity.
"they deserved to be charged for their stupidity."
Yep.
Armani could talk in Rudy's favour: that he is gay and not at all interested in girls...
But I still believe in a script for this Clown Show: very convenient that during all that time witnesses get lost or that they do no more remember...
What do you mean "If not at this trial, though, if not at the appeal trial, one day the lovebirds will be acquitted and Rudi will lose his excuse."
Are you saying they might have to go through an appeal trial and even lose that before they are aquitted, how long in jail will that be. You're not serious are you. Do Italian courts have the mindset "guilty, let them appeal" set as some kind of default.
"Are you saying they might have to go through an appeal trial"
Most probably.
"and even lose that before they are aquitted"
That's what Supreme Courts are for.
If they acquit them at all.
"how long in jail will that be."
Years.
What I want to know is if he means that the courts when in doubt will convict and let them face an appeal rather than "aquit when they have doubts" which is the usual standard. Do they use the term beyond reasonable doubt or do they just pass the buck to a higher court as default.
"What I want to know is if he means that the courts when in doubt will convict and let them face an appeal"
If they convict them then they won't be in doubt.
Back when Amanda implicated Patrick, wasn't it said that police had found hairs clasped in Meredith's hand? If they were suggesting what she should remember, I am sure there were clues as to what they wanted her to remember.
Also, even if Meredith didn't have defensive wounds, it has been said she put up a fight and her resistance could be what turned a robbery into a murder. I think the idea that Rudy was working with other thieves is very plausible too.
For all those defending Rudy while criticizing Amanda's inappropriate behavior, one must ask what kind of person KNOWS a young woman has died horribly yet goes dancing and drinking immediately after the event. Why did he run to Germany? Oh boo hoo, I forgot, because he's black. Why should that be a problem in Italy? And why the fast-track trial on the flimsy excuse, again, that his black skin would get him framed? In Italy?? Just how powerful is this Amanda Knox that she can control the opinions and judiciary of Italy against a poor black criminal?
And why has nobody suggested that the break-ins at the house after the murder could be the same perpetrators returning to the scene of the crime?
I think the real criminal assistants are still out there and one person has been rightly convicted and put behind bars.
Thanks Frank for your new post.
frank said...
He was a drifter, he could go anytime anywhere to look for a job or with other targets. Or with no target.
He had already been working near Milan where his ant lives.
Having their cellphone and pc he found the name of the lawyers there. And the pc didn't have a password.
He SAID that he bought them in Milan.
June 28, 2009 6:13 PM
Anonymous said...
didn't he go there for the discos? thought he had friends there he liked to party with
June 28, 2009 6:14 PM
frank said...
Armani said that they met by chance and he asked him to pose.
June 28, 2009 6:15 PM
Did Rudy use the cellphone that was stolen from the law office to make calls? Was the photo with Armani taken with the digital camera of that cellphone?
There is a quote elsewhere that the lawyers said that they only wanted their property returned and no charges were filed. Is that true?
It does seem that Rudy was in possession of a computer and cellphone that somebody wanted to be returned to it's rightful owners. Bullshit to it belonging to the law firm.
I think that we should add to the equation that it is possible that Rudy was involved in something that caused interest in Rudy as a suspect of another case. Rudy stole a computer and cellphone ??? or somebody hired that law firm to get the computer and cellphone back from Rudy, who had taken off with them to Milan.
If Rudy was released from Milan police, a team of investigators could have been tailing Rudy from the time that he left Milan in order to find out who wanted to pick up that computer and cellphone.
It is obvious to me that the case has involved framing someone for Meredith's murder from the beginning. The case has been a moving target.
First to be framed without success was probably Giacomo Silzeni. Thanks that he was away on holiday. When Sonia Morro disappeared, they tried to frame the boyfriend and a priest. Then Patrick had a solid alibi so that did not work either. Rudy did not enter the picture for weeks.
The DNA evidence is all fabricated from epithelial cells collected from clothing on all three suspects. When a rape sample is tested, sperm cells are separated from other cells by a special process. That sample was run when Patrick was the suspect. They found no sperm. And the physical evidence was questionable as to whether a rape was ever consummated. Why would they save an old sample of the remains of the rape test that nobody would believed counted for anything because it is mainly the victim's cells? Why didn't Rudy's lawyers challenge that?
It's a really bad strategy to go after Rudy if the appeal can prove that Rudy gave a false confession about being with Meredith because of the same tactics that caused Amanda to give a false accusation against Patrick.
Rudy was obviously involved in something before Meredith was murdered. That something is going to come to light.
Hey, what is this? Why are comments still allowed in the former chapter, which had been disabled, but is now again open to comments????
LMT is that really you or a PMS plant. Honestly, you are nearly as demented about Rudy as one of them and just as accurate. when did you wander away from forensics and into behavioral science of which you appear to know nothing. many people are disappointed in you.
refering to the LMT at 6:35, not the suddenly sane one at 7:04. what gives?
Right, let's jail Peg and the Snake sisters: "they deserved to be charged for their stupidity."
"Anonymous said...
refering to the LMT at 6:35, not the suddenly sane one at 7:04. what gives?
June 29, 2009 7:46 AM"
Yes, both are LMT. I am just throwing out some possibilities because the stories that we hear contain such inconsistencies and strange behavior.
Just keep an open mind and think about it. Rudy was already involved in SOMETHING before Meredith was murdered. (The lawyers claim that the computer and cellphone were stolen the same weekend that Aldo Bianzino was found dead in his cell.) What???
One issue that was completely avoided was what was going on with the cannibis growing in the downstairs apartment.
Aldo Bianzino was growing female plants. At least 100 plants were found but some claim that number included discarded male plants. He was arrested on Oct. 12, a Friday, and was dead by Sunday. That was the same weekend as Rudy was accused of stealing the computer and cellphone.
"The U.S. Drug Enforcement Agency uses an average dried weight of one pound of usable marijuana leaf and bud per mature plant based on yield studies conducted across 15 states in the 1990s, which at that time included the typical presence of 50 percent male plants. In controlled grow studies in Mississippi, the DEA concluded female plants could readily yield five pounds of usable bud and leaf material."
Italy has a great growing climate and long season. It is a good environment for outdoor marijuana. It was November and the police found what we heard about was three plants. These plants must have been huge by then and ready to harvest. The weather was turning cold and the plants would eventually die outside.
So what was the street value of those three plants if they were female plants. Minimum price is 20 EU per gram.
Minimum yield on those plants was at least 500 grams and more likely to be 1500 grams. The boys potentially had $10,000 worth of marijuana.
Where does that fall within Italy's laws about whether you get arrested as a dealer? I did hear that one of the occupants downstairs had an arrest record but that is unconfirmed as far as public information goes so that it cannot be repeated here.
``Frank, now that you're here could you please explain why you initially thought Raf and Amanda were guilty and what brought you to change your mind. Was there any specific thing? BTW, I think it would make a good blog post.''
MONEY
``What do you mean "If not at this trial, though, if not at the appeal trial, one day the lovebirds will be acquitted and Rudi will lose his excuse."
Are you saying they might have to go through an appeal trial and even lose that before they are aquitted, how long in jail will that be. You're not serious are you. Do Italian courts have the mindset "guilty, let them appeal" set as some kind of default.''
It is not unusual that accused get off on the second or third appeal in Italy.
In their system, appeals are more like re-trials, so to be convicted, finally, you actually have to be convicted three times. Without smoking gun evidence, and it is questionable whether there is smoking gun evidence for anyone but Rudi in this case, they almost always get off eventually. My prediction is six years in jail, then exonneration.
``Frank, now that you're here could you please explain why you initially thought Raf and Amanda were guilty and what brought you to change your mind. Was there any specific thing? BTW, I think it would make a good blog post.''
MONEY
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PEDOPHILIA. like Harry?
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Anonymous MikeyVerve said...
``Frank, now that you're here could you please explain why you initially thought Raf and Amanda were guilty and what brought you to change your mind. Was there any specific thing? BTW, I think it would make a good blog post.''
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PEDOPHILIA. like Harry?
June 29, 2009 9:24 AM
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No, Frank is just in it for the money.
And his real name is not Frank.
really? in any sane world, frank would be a nickname for Francesco. what's YOUR name BTW? your interest in case, dude? are you so without love or money of your own that you need to write such ugly thoughts?
Frank is the most talented journalist on the case. we are lucky to have him here writing in English. MikeyVooddoo is just an internet crank like his PMS buds
Here is a good reason to avoid trying to use the "blame it on Rudy defense."
Rudy was convicted on:
conspiracy to commit aggravated voluntary murder
conspiracy to commit sexual violence
acquitted of robbery
Conspiracy can be very vague and broadly interpreted. Eventually somebody will find out how they tested the vaginal sample. The wash from the swab gets processed to yield a sperm sample and a sample with other cells. From a legal standpoint, how does anybody know how many of Rudy's cells could have been in the other cell sample? How did they identify them? What method was used? How would you clone the DNA if nobody can tell the difference between the skin cells of Meredith and that of Rudy? Did they run the other cell sample looking for Patrick's DNA? Did they even still have that sample or was it discharged after the original DNA test for rape?
That is all they have on Rudy other than crazy Kokomani. So some thorough work in the appeal could easily crumble the DNA evidence against Rudy.
No, Frank is just in it for the money.
And his real name is not Frank.
June 29, 2009 9:33 AM
Sounds like jealousy!
LMT: Luckily Rudy was acquitted of robbery. Madoff just got 150 years jail for it...
Raffele disconnected the burlar alarms at the law office.
"Raffele disconnected the burlar alarms at the law office."
Is this Peg's new theory that Andrea Vogt is going to put in her new article? I hope so!
Raffele disconnected the burlar alarms at the law office.
Then changed the password on the computer in exchange for his help on November 1st
Michael, Rudi stole the laptop. Car thieves drive in cars they steal, sometimes for long periods of time.
No DNA was found in the lawyer's office because they didn't do a DNA search of his office.
Police don't do full investigations for relatively petty thefts.
On one hand the mob says AK and RS knew of Rudi's MO and copied on the other they say he didn't do it.
It is possible the same partner Rudi had at the lawyers was with him at the cottage.
The fact that Rudy had put loads of his own files on the laptop also demonstrates he wasn't about to sell it. That also indicates to me that he didn't steal it, for as Frank would say 'only a stupid' would rob something and then keep it....rather a criminal sells what they rob and buys what 'others' have robbed for themselves.
It also doesn't match Rudy's MO does it? After all, the Knox Camp like scream how Rudy left a TON, A TON I TELL YOU of forensic evidence at the cottage (an exaggeration of course, though it is true he did leave undeniable traces of himself), yet, those same traces are completely absent from the broken into offices, not to mention the outside and inside of Filomena's room that Rudy was supposed to have performed the 'impossible mission' and broken into and then ransacked. All without not so much of a trace, not sniff..
What theft was Rudi charged with?
They didn't charge him because they didn't want the panel to hear what a crook he is.
Anybody have a link to any reports that Amanda was found with a lot of unaccounted for cash on her?
Frank you are seriously disturbed. You must be sucking the same things that made Amanda Knox swivel her hips to the police and exclaim hoopla! while her murdered friend is just yards away sticking to the floor in her own congealing blood.
You are one bitter and twisted and sick individual Frank, really you are.
bla bla bla bla bla
We don't know anything at all about Rudy's DNA tests. And we don't know what methods were used. How did they make identification of the difference between Rudy's epithelial cells and Meredith's epithelial cells?
"The standard method for purifying sperm from vaginal swabs is to first resuspend all cells from the swab and to selectively digest the victim's epithelial cells with a solution containing Proteinase K and SDS (sodium dodecyl sulfate). Sperm nuclei are impervious to this treatment because they have disulfide bond cross-linked thiol-rich proteins, while other cell types are digested and the corresponding DNA is solubilized. The intact sperm are separated from the solubilized, contaminating DNA by centrifugation, careful removal of supernatant, and extensive washing and can result in the loss of some sperm."
"while other cell types are digested and the corresponding DNA is solubilized." Also there are some processes than can add an agent that will digest the DNA (other than sperm DNA) from the process that separates the sperm. If the lab used that process, then Rudy's epithelial cell DNA would have been digested along with Meredith's DNA, thus yielding no original sample from the rape test.
In the US, samples have to be preserved that the defendant can request their own independent testing. Amanda's DNA evidence would have been thrown out in the US. I would like to know more about Rudy's epithelial DNA test where they claim to have identified Rudy's finger in the vagina.
MOMMA MIA......certainly sounds like a grade A student trying to make a good impression in Perugia.
and we're so impressed with your intelligence ....
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It is the end of the month, Rudy has no money for rent, has lost his job, and is in need of family. So he travels to Milan to visit his Aunt (that makes sense) or does it? Why is he sleeping in a school if he has an Aunt he can call on? Why does he buy a computer if he is short on Rent money? If Rudy had access to the lap top contents than he would know damn well the lap top was HOT, and stolen. People don't sell laptops and typically leave personal information on them, nor do they sell them at train stations unless they are red hot. What guy would show him to sleep in a nursery school? What does he need a hammer and a knife for? Hammers are good for smashing windows, and knifes are good for prying locks. The cell, the lap top, the knife, and the hammer all have one thing in common, they are stolen. No where has Frank said Rudy loaded tonnes of files on the computer. Frank said he loaded one jpeg image which would have taken less than 60 seconds to do.
yes, using momma mia definitely makes her a killer
Frank's words...
Then Amanda, Raffaele and Patrick --when questioned by the police-- tried to pursue their story. But not only there wasn't coherence among the three versions, even inside the three versions there were lots of contradictions, new at every stage. Their defensive strategy, undeliberately, was "a chaos" as the questore Arturo De Felice defined it.
Chaos in Amanda's mind, justified with the suffered shock. Chaos in Raffaele's mind, justified with the smoked joints. No disclosures yet about Patrick's version.
This was until Amanda collapsed and admitted she was present at the murder and that the murderer was Patrick alone, while she was out of Meredith's room and just hearing everything. About the presence of Raffaele she said she CAN'T REMEMBER whether he was there or not!
yes, using momma mia definitely makes her a killer
No just not as smart as you make her out to be!
who cares if she's smart. accused of
woah woah woah, Michael Jackson died?
sock puppet at 11:52 AM, way to repeat the false confession as fact. guess we should arrest pl again too
Average indoor yield is 250-400 grams per sq. meter. LMT, how big was the growing area? I think you overestimated the potential of the mega-crop in the very small apt.
The fact that Rudy had put loads of his own files on the laptop also demonstrates he wasn't about to sell it. That also indicates to me that he didn't steal it, for as Frank would say 'only a stupid' would rob something and then keep it....rather a criminal sells what they rob and buys what 'others' have robbed for themselves.
I doin't get it, I thought he had just bought it at the train station when he was running away.
When did he have time to put loads
of his own files on it?
or im i wrong about this?
Good detective work: June 29, 2009 12:17 PM
I thought the same thing. He probably had a USB in his pocket or something.
you don't understand because it's a dumbass theory out of PMS, the blame the victim site. Don't even try to wind your head around their logic. rudy stole the computer and made up a big lie about buying it. they believe it because they don't give a damn about Meredith. i used to post there, never again
sock puppet at 11:52 AM, way to repeat the false confession as fact. guess we should arrest pl again too
No but why did Amanda accuse him to begin with? Who is responsible for THE false confession. Have the ever accounted for their true whereabouts on the night in question?
No I didn't think so!
oh, please! follow the case. figure out a few things for yourself. stop being such a willing slut
"oh, please! follow the case. figure out a few things for yourself. stop being such a willing slut"
Very intelligent reply but the question remains unanswered.They did it,you know it and yet you continue your lemming like behavior.
Man I just went to the pmf site,
there like a bunch of 12yr olds
stroke'n each others egos.
It is not a frendly place they talk
crap about everybody. And it's mostly there opinion's and not fact's.
There over there defending Rudy
just to blame Amanda good grief!
The only way Amanda will be convicted is thru injustes.
Just like the pmfers promote.
I would post this over there but
it's not worth the time to sign up over there.
If the lab used that process, then Rudy's epithelial cell DNA would have been digested along with Meredith's DNA, thus yielding no original sample from the rape test.
They would only have used a portion of the sample I presume, there may have been multiple swabs taken, plenty left for other tests.
No but why did Amanda accuse him to begin with? Who is responsible for THE false confession. Have the ever accounted for their true whereabouts on the night in question?
The cops made her.
The cops
RS's aprt.
Just like the pmfers promote.
I would post this over there but
it's not worth the time to sign up over there.
June 29, 2009 1:01 PM
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June 29, 2009 11:24 AM
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The wisdom of an Amandaphile.
Makes almost as much sense as
her blither.
"No where has Frank said Rudy loaded tonnes of files on the computer. Frank said he loaded one jpeg image which would have taken less than 60 seconds to do.
June 29, 2009 11:48 AM"
If he loaded a jpeg onto the computer, then did he take the picture with the cellphone? You can e-mail pictures with cellphone. Yes??
Just found this article in the Daily Mail -The prosecution should call this guy as a rebuttal witness:
Colin Gregg, a former friend who once took Ms Knox to the school prom, told The Times that she had changed radically after leaving school.
“The Amanda I knew at prep would never have done such a thing, but in the three years between when I last saw her there and when I saw her at university she changed so much that I cannot honestly say one way or another what I believe she could or could not do."
"Anonymous said...
If the lab used that process, then Rudy's epithelial cell DNA would have been digested along with Meredith's DNA, thus yielding no original sample from the rape test.
They would only have used a portion of the sample I presume, there may have been multiple swabs taken, plenty left for other tests.
June 29, 2009 1:08 PM"
Maybe multiple samples that were stored??? But DNA from epithelial cells cannot be separated from Meredith's epithelial cells. And cannot be identified prior to testing for DNA. So all of the mixed cells are "exploded" together and then that is called a "mixed sample." The reliability of identification from a mixed sample (two individuals, victim and suspect) is very low because there are many, many more times the number of cells from the victim.
How many cells could Rudy have deposited that actually just were shed? Nothing would have scraped Rudy's skin in a vagina. IT IS NOT LIKE A VAGINA HAS TEETH OR SOMETHING.
So come on people. Scientifically they could NOT tell if Rudy's epithelial was present in a reliable manner. What is wrong with Rudy's lawyers that they didn't ask more questions about DNA and this finger stuff?
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The funny thing is you actually believe Frank gets paid for this. You are not very good detectives, that's for sure.
LMT said...
"No where has Frank said Rudy loaded tonnes of files on the computer. Frank said he loaded one jpeg image which would have taken less than 60 seconds to do.
June 29, 2009 11:48 AM"
I read that @pmf.
Anonymous said...
Michael, Rudi stole the laptop. Car thieves drive in cars they steal, sometimes for long periods of time.
No DNA was found in the lawyer's office because they didn't do a DNA search of his office.
Police don't do full investigations for relatively petty thefts.
On one hand the mob says AK and RS knew of Rudi's MO and copied on the other they say he didn't do it.
It is possible the same partner Rudi had at the lawyers was with him at the cottage.
The fact that Rudy had put loads of his own files on the laptop also demonstrates he wasn't about to sell it. That also indicates to me that he didn't steal it, for as Frank would say 'only a stupid' would rob something and then keep it....rather a criminal sells what they rob and buys what 'others' have robbed for themselves.
It also doesn't match Rudy's MO does it? After all, the Knox Camp like scream how Rudy left a TON, A TON I TELL YOU of forensic evidence at the cottage (an exaggeration of course, though it is true he did leave undeniable traces of himself), yet, those same traces are completely absent from the broken into offices, not to mention the outside and inside of Filomena's room that Rudy was supposed to have performed the 'impossible mission' and broken into and then ransacked. All without not so much of a trace, not sniff..
June 29, 2009 10:55 AM
And here!
I Like Reading PMF said...
Just like the pmfers promote.
I would post this over there but
it's not worth the time to sign up over there.
June 29, 2009 1:01 PM
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June 29, 2009 1:39 PM
No I'm frightend!
“The Amanda I knew at prep would never have done such a thing, but in the three years between when I last saw her there and when I saw her at university she changed so much that I cannot honestly say one way or another what I believe she could or could not do."
It would be a great idea to call someone that knew her 4 years ago that has no idea 'one way or the other'
Your quote was from Nov. 7, 2007, I'm sure it was a deeply researched story.
It's such a good idea maybe Mignini will hire you.
If the Italian system seeks truth why would they call Kokomani and the store owner but not Christian and store employee?
When the store owner came forward 8 months after the crime - where no bleach was used that we've heard of in court - I'm sure they checked with all other employees working that morning. It is not conceivable that they didn't know Raffaele's cleaning lady worked there, well maybe they can use incompetence as an excuse, and they should have presented her. Was it a surprise to the judge when she said she had not seen Amanda that morning.
Anyway if the store owner didn't come forward for 8 months and had no backing why was he better than Christian?
Kokomani waits for two months and comes forward. He was at the scene of the crime within minutes eating olives while driving the outskirts of town. Of course, this guy has a lawyer to consult with that we must trust because he is available to poor guys like Kokomani. His friends from the bar undoubtedly remembered the conversation months later.
Nara comes forward months later with a hearing ability a rabbit would envy.
None of these witnesses came forward in a timely manner. Kokomani was there and saw the murders with knives but didn't go to the police within a week, instead he went to Albania.
Any police force in the world would be suspicious of him, except the Italians.
Whether Rudy downloaded a terabyte of files or a 128K jpeg is a moot point. The fact they didn't find any DNA at the law office is not surprising as Rudy didn't have his knickers bunched around his ankles. Furthermore police don't investigate petty break inns, nor would they have even taken finger prints let alone DNA. Whether Rudy planned on selling the lap top or hocking it for cash is also a moot point. We have also heard testimony in this trial that he bothered women and stole their purses. To argue what he planned on doing with the computer is another straw arguement by the PMFers who worship Rudy.
"Frightened," I'm with ya, buddy. Who wants Margaret Ganong with her fingers on your IP address? Scary, man.
"Should they rearrest PL?"
"No but why did Amanda accuse him to begin with? Who is responsible for THE false confession. Have they ever accounted for their true whereabouts on the night in question?"
The cops made her.
The cops
RS's aprt.
It's a shame RS has told police repeatly she was not there.
In summary: Everyone else is a corrupt, illogical, prideful, tainted, sometimes stupid, lying dog except for Frank, Amanda and of course the great Googler and self appointed sidekick, turtle dove...if they see things differently from the party line. It must be wonderful to live in such a self-righteous world.
What about the defense witnesses aren't they all liars?
The PMFers are angry that the Today show did a video on the single attacker demonstration, but they have not uttered a peep that the Brit Tabs haven't covered the defense case hardly at all.
Hypocrites.
"None of these witnesses came forward in a timely manner. Kokomani was there and saw the murders with knives but didn't go to the police within a week, instead he went to Albania.
Any police force in the world would be suspicious of him, except the Italians.
June 29, 2009 2:56 PM"
Exactly! Kokomani comes forward months later with the willingness to "positively" identify the three CONSPIRATORS. Drum roll...ta.ta.ta. And more, he can say:
at the scene
at the specified time
with murder weapon in hand
with an escape plan - borrow the car
Who the hell is this guy, Hekuran Kokomani?
He has been in Italy ten years and works on a farm in San Marco. Did I see that the farm was owned by a lawyer? If so, which lawyer. Tony Aiello, a lawyer, is his good friend. Why does he know Kokomani? Does Aiello own the farm? Or another reason? Kokomani goes home to Albania to see family. So according to Aiello, Kokomani revealed to Aiello that he wanted to make a statement regarding a murder and then Aiello said "no problem, go on home to visit. When you come back, you can make a statement regarding a murder. The police won't mind if the statement is a little delayed." Bullshit again.
Now we need to know the connection between Aiello and Brocchi, the other bullshitter.
"Now the ball is really in his hands"
Wait wait wait,I thought Amanda was saying she had Raffelle's balls in her hand on the night of the murder?
Hi, do you have a link to the Today Show, thanks
Today show:
http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/31442530/ns/world_news-europe/
at your service
From Brocchi's statement:
A few days after October 27th (Rudy's arrest in Milan), a boy of color, appeared in my office. He had a basketball with him. He dribbled the ball around my desk a few times.
By drib·ble, I don't mean:
To let saliva drip from the mouth; drool.
I mean, as in sports:
a. To dribble a ball or puck.
b. To advance by dribbling: dribbled down the court.
c. To move (a ball or puck) by repeated light bounces or kicks, as in basketball or soccer.
He made a few drop shots into our waste basket. By then, I recognized that he must be the basketball player who stole our computer and cellphone. And, with such athletic ability, it was easy for him to pivot over our fencing and scale our wall to the window in question in order to commit the break-in.
The boy of color, said to me, I am Rudy Guede, the accused thief. I did not steal those items. I bought them in Milan.
It was then, that the boy of color, hooked the ball toward the open window as though to make a lay up shot. As the ball passed through the window, Rudy caught and hung on the upper window sash for a brief moment then swung himself through the window to the ground below.
That was the last time that I saw Rudy Guede.
Paolo Brocchi
thanks for the link
wow, that video shows the first reconstruction that actually makes sense, linking it to crimes that actually occur in real life, unlike group attacks during a "sex game gone wrong," surely one of the stupidest phrases anywhere
and the room didn't have enough space for the wild sex game satanic group murder game.
It would fit more people but not the way the prosecution described it.
The Alchemist 102 here..
It be good to know
A. When Rudy took that picture with Armani
B. who took it?
C. With what, a cellphone or digital camera?
D. When was it uploaded to the computer? The file will have the date it was copied to the drive.
One thing...The Guy that took Amanda to prom haha..and the other Turkey that said he had sex with her..
As a male my first impression is that these guys are chumps, Amanda out grew them or lost interest in them as women do unless you are a man with Ambition and Intelligence and Humor..You have to stimulate them both Mentally and Physically and with Humor...
Now of course these turkeys are not going to say yeah I wasn't man enough or I got dumped...The prom guy doesn't even have the confidence to make up his mind and make a choice..He took the easy way out pss...Blame the independence on the woman's liberation movement that happened a long time ago, if you want to call them nasty names to protect your pride / ego that's great..haha
It's a relief to come across this wonderful blog-
So many innocent people have been taken by this cult hysteria since it started. (Been going about 30 years in the USA.) I can't believe the people of Italy would let this madman do this to someone like Amanda Knox though- let alone 'take his side' in the thing. Creepy reporters...et al..how disgusting. Tks from the bottom of my heart for your work. I feel much better about the human race knowing she's being looked out for by someone like you, (and indeed all of you here).
"In summary: Everyone else is a corrupt, illogical, prideful, tainted, sometimes stupid, lying dog"
lying implies that you have some clue what the truth is. no one (except Rudy) knows that. though i guess you are illogical for somehow conning yourself into thinking you do have a clue.
truth seeker, can't answer your questions but looks like the Armani shot was taken in a bar
Remember how Pig Ganong and her band of scolded thieves went off on how lame American court shows were the other day? Well, you should see what Pig Ganong thought about them months ago on TJMK. (You'll notice that she is now trashing the Today show). You'll notice a pattern here. Pretty much now Grazie magazine must be the only legitimate news source in the world:
"They are wildly popular in the US, and the shows can be real scene-changers.
Nancy and Jane are INTENSE advocates for and defenders of victims’ rights - something this case could use some of, right now.
They have very little patience for defendants who make a weak case or lie. And if they see tricks going down, in the courtroom or outside, they will leap on the case like a dog on a bone.
Usually for days or weeks, and sometimes for months.
Jane has clearly concluded that tricks are going down in the Meredith case. She is becoming very, very scathing in her increasingly frequent segments.
The first time we caught Jane on the case, she was working over a confused, stuttering Peter Popham of the Independent - that’s a great comment below his absurd piece, by the way.
You could watch Jane’s skepticism growing, minute by minute. Last night, her show aimed its spotlight at the opening session of the trial."
tee hee, finn crying like little girl tonight and trying to be all profound-like with a haiku--where do they find these folks. God.
unintended humour from PMS
I think part of the attraction of the chat box is that there are some exceptionally bright and witty posters here and it's interesting having a place to chat with those types of people from pretty much all over the world. But it's obviously not an integral part of our purposes here.
Here's a story about a little lying piggie that got caught (for the whiners that think cops are so effing righteous):
http://tinyurl.com/ltn5go
I was interested in Rudy's time line because, for example if the photo was taken before the laptop was stolen and the image was uploaded before Rudy says he bought the laptops at the station...then that could be something to think about...
Brian and Indie, please try to get the names of those songs right before you quote Bob Dylan.
PMFers are really bizarre:
According to them apparently AK knew of the false charge against Rudi of breaking into the lawyer's office with a large rock and then faked the break in to look like the break in Rudi didn't do. Because of course he told her all about it.
Brian and Indie, please try to get the names of those songs right before you quote Bob Dylan.
June 29, 2009 9:22 PM
It was an attempt at being witty, as someone posted above.
Just bopping by the sites again. Holy crap. The PMSers are now the Pro Rudy site. Remember? The guy who's own explanation was he freaked out b/c he saw the murder, fled, leaving a bleeding to death MK on the floor, and went to a disco. No ambulance, nothing. This is the BEST CASE scenario concerning RG and MK.
The fact they are sticking up for him is unbelievable. They stroke nutballs like Ann Coulter cuz Ann agrees with them, now they're hugging the murderer. Absolutely disgusting. Hey you nutters...its Occam's razor AGAIN.
- Rudy is found twice to have messed around with knives.
- He's a freaking thief with a drug habit.
- He's atheletic and scaled into other areas, with a MO of throwing a rock which is identical to the MK murder. And yet we have to put up with PMS postulations on what is possible or not from idiots who've never been there. Arm chair wanna be detectives.
- He's been known to pester girls so badly that he's been booted from bars, and he had a hard on for MK per the guys downstairs.
Can you not see he was on his way to doing something terrible? His own admission is he left her to die, no ambulance, no nothing.
Brian's BS about what is physically possible or not, Maniacal Michaels "oh, I bet coincidently he did buy the computer in a train station". Are you retards serious? How can you look at yourself in the mirror? Do you realize what a moral quandry you are putting yourselves into and what this looks like to normal human beings?
Occam's Razor you freaking tools. You may luuuurve your conspiracy theories, but that's all they are.
Anonymous
"Nothing can be more abhorrent to democracy than to imprison a person or keep him in prison because he is unpopular. This is really the test of a civilization."
- Winston Churchill
hilarious too that finn thinks that CD doesn't have the tech expertise to ban him. she freaking worked at freaking Microsoft. what a bunch of whiners
Anonymous said...
It's a relief to come across this wonderful blog-
So many innocent people have been taken by this cult hysteria since it started. (Been going about 30 years in the USA.) I can't believe the people of Italy would let this madman do this to someone like Amanda Knox though- let alone 'take his side' in the thing. Creepy reporters...et al..how disgusting. Tks from the bottom of my heart for your work. I feel much better about the human race knowing she's being looked out for by someone like you, (and indeed all of you here).
June 29, 2009 7:51 PM
I totally agree.
I'm so disappointed in both the Italian public and the journalists who have gotten caught up in this crazy hysteria and who have chosen to ignore all the pertinent facts in this murder case irregardless of the fact that 2 innocent people could be sent to prison for life.
Someone said: "Occam's Razor you freaking tools."
Friends of Amanda say: "Very likely the killer laid a bloodied towel on the bathroom floor so that it covered or overlapped the mat. He removed his shoe to rinse the blood from it. While his shoe was off, he stepped on the towel, transferring an imprint to the bathmat.
And he patted his head and rubbed his belly at the same time.
Anonymous posted:
Just bopping by the sites again. Holy crap. The PMSers are now the Pro Rudy site. Remember? The guy who's own explanation was he freaked out b/c he saw the murder, fled, leaving a bleeding to death MK on the floor, and went to a disco. No ambulance, nothing. This is the BEST CASE scenario concerning RG and MK.
The fact they are sticking up for him is unbelievable. They stroke nutballs like Ann Coulter cuz Ann agrees with them, now they're hugging the murderer. Absolutely disgusting. Hey you nutters...its Occam's razor AGAIN.
"Nothing can be more abhorrent to democracy than to imprison a person or keep him in prison because he is unpopular. This is really the test of a civilization."
- Winston Churchill
June 29, 2009 10:03 PM
I also find it unbelievable that they're on the side of Rudy Guede who's a convicted rapist and murderer who left large amounts of DNA at the crime scene and on the victim.
These sites profess that their mission is to honor and get justice for the victim, but instead they are defending Rudy Guede, the vicious and callous rapist and murderer of the victim Meredith Kercher.
Truly disgusting!
"And he patted his head and rubbed his belly at the same time."
Look, I have no idea what weird compulsive behavior rituals PMSers do but stop clogging the board with your stupidity. Your jokes = Fail.
That bizaare posting on the mat is the best you can come up with? Y'all are sucking Rudy's c***. I think your post pales in comparison to say the least. How does his ass taste? And what would MK say? Way to go Paladin.
Step 1: Copy the uncropped photo of the bathmat print (the one with the police ruler in centimeters)
(click here)
Step 2: Copy the unjustifiably short pink footprint which FOA did in photoshop
(click here)
Step 3: Place the FOA pink foot on the uncropped bathmat photo, and adjust it's size (without changing the height/width ratio), until it fits on the bathmat.
Step 4: make a line from the front of the pink toes to the end of the pink heel.
Step 5: compare the line to the police ruler and you get 23 centimeters.
Step 6: Find a conversion chart like this one:
(Click for conversion chart)
Step 7: Ask Charlie to explain why FOA shrank Rudy's footprint to such an unbelievably small size, then uses this to insinuate that it is proof that Rudy made the bathmat print
This isn't about justifying Rudy, a person who following the same investigation that also implicated Amanda and Raffaele, has been found guilty of murder. It's about convincing people with honest arguments.
Kermit, go back to your own site where you can talk about how much you love Rudy Guede. You won't get scolded by Pig Ganong there for doing so.
Doesn't fit Raffaele's foot either at 23 cm - does it match AK's footprint? How did the prosecution make RS's foot fit?
"This isn't about justifying Rudy, a person who following the same investigation that also implicated Amanda and Raffaele, has been found guilty of murder. It's about convincing people with honest arguments."
THIS is absolutely ridiculous. Your group has been coming up with excuse and excuse for Rudy since it turned out he really is a sack of sh**. Ooooh, he probably did buy that computer from a street dude, ooohhh even tho he steals, has a reputation for harassing women, does tons of drugs and wanders around with knives he's really a good boy. Would you care to explain why he left her to bleed to death? You are now on his level.
F you. Seriously.
And your powerpoint bsh**ery? YOUR mob is a tainted source. You've never had access to ANYTHING in the trial and now you're trying to convince us off of pictures glommed off the internet(!). Who knows what motivations are behind those who posted those pictures. And YOUR mobs motivations? Death to Amanda and RS at any cost. Keep worming up to the likes of Ann Coulter over a Pulitzer prize winner. Keep having dipsh*** like Kermit post powerpoints. You come off as world class tools.
AND PLEASE, don't now try and say you aren't trying to justify Rudy, by trying to come up with some convaluted alibies for him, you're defrocked as what you are: hateful conspiracy theorists who will die to the bitter end to try and prove their theory. A lynch mob.
Anonymous
"Nothing can be more abhorrent to democracy than to imprison a person or keep him in prison because he is unpopular. This is really the test of a civilization."
- Winston Churchill
you can always tell it's Kermit because a.he thinks he's cute.
b. he can't write a single sentence without using FOA. it's like a weird facial tic
c. he is nuts
i hope the kerchers aren't reading PMF, the blame the victim blog. And it's stomach-turning, the defense of rudy
don't now try and say you aren't trying to justify Rudy, by trying to come up with some convaluted alibies for him
Why don't you take your "look over there! a bird!" divert-the-attention routine offstage, and give Charlie a chance to finally explain the FOA 23 cm pink footprint.
He normally does provide such information. Don't be afraid of letting him speak.
This isn't my alibi for anyone, it's FOA's accusation against Rudy.
i wonder if kermit's wife just can't hack his way of talking so he has to post on the internet just for company. imagine living with a human being who compulsively says FoA and writes shit like Why don't you take your "look over there! a bird!" divert-the-attention routine offstage
Doesn't fit Raffaele's foot either at 23 cm - does it match AK's footprint? How did the prosecution make RS's foot fit?
Exactly!!! The FOA pink foot is not only smaller than Rudy's, it's also smaller than Raffaele's and even Amanda's small foot.
(does that make me not only pro-Rudy, but also pro-Raffaele and pro-Amanda?)
In other words, it's an argument based on fake data.
As to how the prosecution made Raffaele's footprint fit, it you consult the images published in Il Messaggero, you'll see that Dr. Rinaldi applied metrics. Through measurements, you can see the relation which is there (and the relations which are not there).
"Why don't you take your "look over there! a bird!" divert-the-attention routine offstage, and give Charlie a chance to finally explain the FOA 23 cm pink footprint.
He normally does provide such information. Don't be afraid of letting him speak.
This isn't my alibi for anyone, it's FOA's accusation against Rudy."
Dude...you're the one going "footprint!" when I brought up your Rude Rudy worship. He explains it on banhammer candace's site. Go look you freaking retard. We can not spoon feed you on everything. And also, you get so sidetracked on details...this is a total case of not being able to see the forest b/c of the trees.
Your "don't be afraid of letting him speak" ...the guy who even Migweenie said is utterly untruthful. GREAT. Bring it on, have him speak. AK and RS will be released from this farce that much sooner. Rudy is a loser criminal. Please associate yourself with him more.
F your alibi spin. Its painfully obvious what this new information means, and painfully obvious as your legion of tards tries to stagger around and fit it into your latest conspiracy theory. It looks really bad, Rudy's history is very incriminating. And the fact your merry band can't even acknowledge that, or see the opposite view, shows you for what you are: fanatics.
Anonymous
"Nothing can be more abhorrent to democracy than to imprison a person or keep him in prison because he is unpopular. This is really the test of a civilization."
- Winston Churchill
Well, 1st I want to know what version of Photoshop you are using, CS4 maybe? and If it is a legal copy or a Pirated Version from the Torrent sites as this will give us a clue to your honesty...
When I take Rudy's foot, select the blank area with the magic wand, then select similar etc..etc..I am left with a clean footprint..
I placed it over the carpet print and shrink it down while maintaining its proportion it is a perfect match..actually to use the Prosecutions term.."Compatible"
You keep yapping about dimensions but you haven't mentioned anything about rotating the foot print...Yes, you have to rotate Rudy's foot print when you overlay it...This could be your problem...
Another problem is that the name Rudy sounds too cute considering there was his DNA inside the Victim, maybe we should rename him and you won't feel the urge to defend him as much...
" It looks really bad, Rudy's history is very incriminating."
We're not talking about Rudy's history here but about the FOA unbelieveable 23 cm footprint.
Charlie was talking about it here. I thought the readers of this blog and its comments would like to hear his explanations.
"(does that make me not only pro-Rudy, but also pro-Raffaele and pro-Amanda?)"
No, it makes you desperate to try and distance yourself from Rudy. You know deep down that you f'd up in siding with him and you're begging forgiveness. You're also desperately trying to show you are impartial, which, from the really, really creepy gloating on AK and RS misfortunes on the PMS site you will never be forgiven for.
I placed it over the carpet print and shrink it down while maintaining its proportion it is a perfect match.
Of course, your perfect match is as perfect as FOA's perfect match.
The problem is that the length of your perfect match footprint in real life is smaller than Amanda's foot.
Therefore, I think we can conclude that FOA's logic and technique is somewhat flawed and mistaken, at best.
Kermit, come on, admit it, you kinda believe Charlie. Just say it and leave PMS. It's ok really. I realize your sites have little to talk about, so you decided to make a power point. You're holding on too strong. You know they didn't do it. C'mon, c'mon c'mon. Just join us, you know you want to.
"" It looks really bad, Rudy's history is very incriminating."
We're not talking about Rudy's history here but about the FOA unbelieveable 23 cm footprint.
Charlie was talking about it here. I thought the readers of this blog and its comments would like to hear his explanations."
No, I started talking about Rudy's history, you, like the ADD bitch most PMSers are tried to derail the conversation. So, how do you feel that Rudy went to a disco after confessing he bailed on Meredith and let her bleed to death, you disgusting sack of sh**?
Bring your issues up with Charlie. As before, he explained them on another site.
Anonymous
"Nothing can be more abhorrent to democracy than to imprison a person or keep him in prison because he is unpopular. This is really the test of a civilization."
- Winston Churchill
Ok so it's not Amanda's foot according to you, it's Rucifer Lucifer's little brother..Thanks for clearing that up..psss
So is your Photoshop copy Legal or not?
So is your Photoshop copy Legal or not?
I use GIMP, it's freeware.
Now that I've responded to you, I hope Charlie can respond to the issue about the 23 cm pink footprint.
At this point in the discussion, I think we all agree that a 23 cm footprint doesn't point much in the direction of Rudy Guede (who is rightly serving a prison sentence on the basis of other, logical evidence).
C'mon Kermit, you're so bored. You know you don't believe what you're saying. C'mon. Just stop. I know you like to be an individual and it burns you a little bit that you've been doing same speak with the same people forever. You know you wanna change sides. You know this. We all know this. It's very easy to see. C'mon, just come on over. You know you want to.
You're too interesting to stay on PMF and listen to Peggy talk about the role of clerks and Michael's plain weirdness. C'mon. Just stop. You're being ridiculous. Come come now.
"I use GIMP, it's freeware."
No surprise there.
"Now that I've responded to you, I hope Charlie can respond to the issue about the 23 cm pink footprint."
F you, not only have we pointed out he has detailed this out on another site, we are not your personal army. Go screw yourself.
"At this point in the discussion, I think we all agree that a 23 cm footprint doesn't point much in the direction of Rudy Guede (who is rightly serving a prison sentence on the basis of other, logical evidence)."
We don't agree with a biased little sack of sh** who can't decide whether or not Rudy was a bad person for leaving MK to bleed to death. Go play with your powerpoints, the only thing we're in agreement on, is you're getting jollies coming here trying to spew propaganda.
And what's really sad is it isn't for MK. Its to prop up your lame powerpoints you're so upset are falling to pieces. Get some humanity man.
Love your "I think we all agree".. are you nuts? Doh, wait you are. Just cuz you come here and say that does not give you bragging rights on PMS to say "they agreed! aggle aggle aggle!"
Anonymous
"Nothing can be more abhorrent to democracy than to imprison a person or keep him in prison because he is unpopular. This is really the test of a civilization."
- Winston Churchill
The proper term for Gimp is Open Source Software...Smarty..
Anonymous said...
"Frightened," I'm with ya, buddy. Who wants Margaret Ganong with her fingers on your IP address? Scary, man.
June 29, 2009 3:11 PM
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I dunno...
someone posted her photo on here months ago - presumably in an effort to make her look bad - but I thought she looked pretty hot for an older chick
You could watch Jane’s skepticism growing, minute by minute. Last night, her show aimed its spotlight at the opening session of the trial."
June 29, 2009 8:56 PM
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sorry, dude, Jane is hot, but I can't take anyone with a MULLET seriously
lying implies that you have some clue what the truth is. no one (except Rudy) knows that.
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Actually, Amanda knows the truth, too.
So does Raff.
Anonymous said...
for the whiners that think cops are so effing righteous):
June 29, 2009 9:20 PM
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what makes YOU so distrustful of cops????????????
(seems to me Amanda's plight draws most of its support from the ranks of disenfranchised)
Anonymous said...
you come off as world class tools.
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uh, yeah...guess it's in the eye of the beholder, dude.
Cougarphile said...
Mulletphobe said...
Just Sayin' said...
Gods Peggy, get your drunk husband to bed.
"uh, yeah...guess it's in the eye of the beholder, dude."
Freaking brilliant comeback. Are you sure you need that last belt of vodka?
Anonymous said...
i wonder if kermit's wife just can't hack his way of talking so he has to post on the internet just for company.
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(a) have TD Google "projection bias" for you, and
(b) go see a marriage counsellor
Anonymous said...
"uh, yeah...guess it's in the eye of the beholder, dude."
Freaking brilliant comeback. Are you sure you need that last belt of vodka?
June 30, 2009 12:32 AM
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but I AM brilliant, dude - that's what they tell me anyway - got a MENSA card in my wallet (really, I do), a degree in science & studied law at one of the most selective schools in the world
guess that's why I think Manders is involved here, folks
(but, to be fair, the defence has yet to rest - still, gotta say, the media coverage has me thinking they're not off to a 'brilliant' start...I can't wait for the book)
PMS flog: "Hysterical Bystander:
He's a sportswriter. Just sayin'."
Retards messing up Frank's blog:
"Just Sayin' said...
Blah blah blah.
June 30, 2009 12:19 AM"
Coincidence? Nah, they're drawn like moths to a flame. The only Blog (thanks Frank!) that isn't compromised. So creepy, creepy individuals like those above must come in and post something, anything, to make their lives worthwhile.
Your ISP is slipping!
don't think so
Mensa member? buahahahahahaha
we believe you ; )
Hey Mensa member, why don't you take your Mensa card, put your middle finger over your name, and upload it. Put your money where your mouth is.
"but I AM brilliant, dude - that's what they tell me anyway - got a MENSA card in my wallet (really, I do), a degree in science & studied law at one of the most selective schools in the world
guess that's why I think Manders is involved here, folks
(but, to be fair, the defence has yet to rest - still, gotta say, the media coverage has me thinking they're not off to a 'brilliant' start...I can't wait for the book)"
Oh noes! A mensa member. I bow down in shame. Oh hey, I took the test too and I'm actually an honorary mensa tard for a year! Lurve the multiple choice! But that always begs the question...how many mensa members does it take to put in a lightbulb?
One to change the lightbulb. Two to complain that the old one was unfairly dismissed. Two more to object to the new one because they don't like its politics and because it was rude to them at an AG five years ago. Another five to form a protest group about the person who changed it and circulate hate mail about them. One to write a snotty letter for Tribune about the poor quality of lightbulbs. Three more to argue on the List about whether candle power is better. Finally, one to write a motion expressing a vote of no confidence in the Lighting Sub- Committee. Answer = 15
I love the fact that you "studied law" means you didn't get a law degree, and the degree in science, could it be in the field of Forensic Entomologist? It would be perfect for your conspiracy theory background.
Also concerning "thinking they're not off to a 'brilliant' start"...oh hey, but law was just a hobby for you right? Don't quit your day job, and hope your "mensa card" is getting more of a workout than your unused condom in your wallet.
Anonymous
"Nothing can be more abhorrent to democracy than to imprison a person or keep him in prison because he is unpopular. This is really the test of a civilization."
- Winston Churchill
I am a member - and I think your girl is involved
(does it worry you to think a bona fide MENSA member isn't buying your PR spin???)
"I am a member - and I think your girl is involved
(does it worry you to think a bona fide MENSA member isn't buying your PR spin???)"
When's your membership up spunky?
Just upload your Mensa card with your middle finger. Prove it... oh you wait, you're lying so you can't.
we're all mensa members, i think that's what he's trying to say
"(does it worry you to think a bona fide MENSA member isn't buying your PR spin???)"
PMS = Menses
No dude, you just embarassed yourself really badly. And we totally love that you have to put multiple ??? !!! >.< >.< after everything.
WOW!
the thought of someone with a JD & a MENSA IQ really BOTHERS you!
I'm flattered, but it really doesn't do much to convince me Manders is innocent
(I don't think I can post a photo here without registering)
"WOW!
the thought of someone with a JD & a MENSA IQ really BOTHERS you!"
Heh, we know you are easily surprised, and that you apparantly hold a lot of weight on artificial measures of intelligence, but your idea that it actually perturbs us is ridiculous! Thanks for the laugh! And jeez, what a miserable attempt to back track dude! My 12 year old sister could do better! Good luck next time!
(I don't think I can post a photo here without registering)
You think a mensa member could find an easy solution to that.
I'm a mensa member too btw, and I went to Yale law. Where did you study law?
I also have an enormous dick
Oh. Em. Gee. BOOORING..
Mignini found guilty today in Florence.
Yes! Get in!!
Really ?
"Mignini found guilty today in Florence."
Post link now please
Sorry, made it up. Just hoping. But his verdict is today no?
lol
D'OH!!
Yeh can't wait to hear how that one goes
"Sorry, made it up. Just hoping. But his verdict is today no?"
Dude, not cool, don't stoop to the bullshit that PMS and Truelustice vomit. They will take your email out of context and marinate in it for days and days spreading their filth.
Ok. Sorry. They have their stupid "Comodi would still be there" talking point ready, which no one in the press is going to buy.
Did you know that if Kim Jung Il dies someone will just take his place anyways?
Believe me, the press will care if there is a convicted prosecutor actually still trying the case. Italian law be damned.
"Believe me, the press will care if there is a convicted prosecutor actually still trying the case. Italian law be damned."
Dude, I agree 1000 percent. If he is convicted this will be the nail in the coffin. Game over. So much stuff he said is then exposed for the bs it is. The Italians f*** everything up, but not this...its too blatant.
I always found it funny that Mensa in Spanish is the word Stupid, the a at the end makes feminine so it becomes "Stupid Girl"...
Another interesting fact is that highly intelligent people have a higher rate of depression / dysfunctional...:-)
Ha no one. That's not an official mensa card. Nice try though.
Jesus, did you actually take the time to make a fake mensa card? THAT is one of the most pathetic things I've ever seen.
They issue photoshopped mensa pictures in your country too?
Hahah LMAO..did you notice my post was 2 seconds before you pulled your card...?
Being able to solve crossword puzzles and knowing the temperature of the sun is great if you are applying to get a card but when we are dealing with the variables of life it takes more then just knowledge...It requires True Wisdom, applied knowledge and experience equals Wisdom... by the way in certain circles it is common knowledge that some smarty pants Analytical thinkers do not see a difference...but The Teslas and the Einsteins did and so does edward witten...
The guy actually took the time do all that! Holy shit your life is pathetic.
The internet is an Equalizer, 1 Mensa vs a high number of individuals each with their own knowledge and experience equals?
Yale is arguably the greatest law school in the world - if you really did go there, I envy you.
Res Ipsa Loquitor
Enough with the act. You don't think like a lawyer, that much is obvious. Mensa or no mensa.
"No One said...
well that card IS real, so, you know...deal"
Good Rappin'..Personally I didn't doubt you...Your arrogance showed through..
"and, yeah, I might be pathetic (to some) but at least I don't collect knives/abuse drugs/kill people for thrills"
Neither do most of us here..What was the point of saying that? Oh yeah saving face, while releasing tension...got it..
"and, no, I don't think I have any special insight into the truth here,"
Finally your Truth..
"but by any objective measure, the evidence against Knox & Sollecito is formidable"
Part of the argument has been that the evidence is falsified, messed up and F up...and I am being polite here...
You are obviously new and need some cathing up...You have now been initiated, congratulations, here your new carddddd..
'the act/thing speaks for itself'
[big deal - you hear that one in your first WEEK of 1L]
you think I'm not a lawyer because I find the prosecution's case (as reported in the media) compelling???
whatever
the evidence is falsified, messed up and F up...and I am being polite here...
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I know that's the spin here - and I am looking forward to seeing what the defence can show in this regard come July
Hey "no one"....busted!
I am the 200th poster.
Anonymous said...
Hey "no one"....busted!
June 30, 2009 4:45 AM
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Oh? How so?
According to the UK Mirror, John Grisham is currently fascinated by the trial of American Amanda Knox, who is on trial in Italy for the murder of Meredith Kercher. The Mirror reports that he wants to write a book about the trial.
Better start looking for an agent Frank,Dempsey and Amanda. Grisham can string words together better than the 3 of you combined.
Unintended humour
If one takes a purely detached and logical approach, it is no easier to get from petty thievery to brutal murder than it is to get from cannibis smoking to brutal murder, knife collecting to brutal murder, academic achievement to brutal murder....Margaret Ganong on anti-Meredith blog
"Better start looking for an agent Frank,Dempsey and Amanda. Grisham can string words together better than the 3 of you combined."
Hahahahaha...is this the butthurt menses member crying into the wind? Why don't you just post:
Wrrrrryyyyyyyyy!!!????
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